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Steve

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What's the best way to pull an engine?
« on: March 18, 2009, 01:19:44 PM »

Hi Everyone!
I'm considering pulling the 440 out of the '68 Sport Fury. This will allow me to not only degrease and properly paint the engine, but also to detail the engine compartment. My question is this:

What is the best way pull the engine? I've pulled the engine/trans assembly out of GM vehicles by removing the hood and radiator and using a engine hoist with a crank leveler. BUT I now have access to a lift and I'm thinking it might be easier to unbolt the K member (and everything else required) and lift the body up and off the the engine/trans assembly.

What do you guys think?

Thanks,
Uncle Hulka
PS - My NEW gas tank arrived yesterday. Looks awesome and I can't wait to install it. I will have then replaced the entire fuel system from tank to carburetor. One more system I shouldn't have to worry about!

Woo Hoo!

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 02:10:25 PM »

I would unbolt and remove the entire radiator support. (It is pretty easy to to do, only about eight bolts, then you don't have to lift the engine and trans up very high - you can even leave the hood on. Just remember to remove the transmission mount cross beam.

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 02:24:15 PM »

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Ditto;

 
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 02:42:54 PM »


Quote from: krautmaster
I would unbolt and remove the entire radiator support. (It is pretty easy to to do, only about eight bolts, then you don't have to lift the engine and trans up very high - you can even leave the hood on. Just remember to remove the transmission mount cross beam.

The radiator support unbolts without having to remove the fenders? Hmmmmmnnn.......

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 03:15:53 PM »

That is how the factory assembled them.  The entire subframe was assembled and shoved right in.
 
I did what you are thinking of a couple of years ago on Polaraco.  It's very hard on the ground and doing it by yourself.  But with a lift. . . .
 
That is one way of rebuilding the froont end while it's out. . . Nice and easy.  The Rad support is a good idea, but they don't come out quite that easy. . .   But they will.
 
Let's see
Bumper
wiring
hoses
steering coupler
exhaust
Linkage
6 big bolts and whalaa
 
There's advantages to both ways
 
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 03:16:13 PM »

Since you have access to a lift (you lucky dog) you swap out the drivetrain by:
1. as said above, or
2. alternatively,  remove the hood and drop the tranny crossmember.

Yer choice.


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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 03:35:40 PM »

Well, since I've never undone a K member before.....and I would have to rig up some sort of a cradle to put under the engine.....it might be easier to take it out the conventional way. But with a lift, I can put the car up, undo all the underside connections and bolts and trans crossmember (thanks Krautmaster), lower the car and use the hoist to get it out that way.

Or is the other way better...?

Hmmmmnnnn...

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 05:25:20 PM »

I just pulled my engine out yesterday . Did it the traditional way, took the hood off and yanked it out. Left the tranny in so it was pretty easy. 

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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2009, 05:27:03 PM »

Do you have to pull the trans too?
 
If you don't, just split them.  But mark the flexplate and the converter for polarity.  I mean the bolts are offset on the converter and a bear to match. So you want to match mark the flex plate and converter to match up when you put it back in.
 
Then you don't need to take the rad support out.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2009, 05:28:39 PM »

Heh  We posted the same time Newport.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2009, 05:49:05 PM »

I'm replacing the converter while I have mine out. Why leave a 40 year old converter in when your putting in a new engine? $85 bucks well spent unless you want to end up with strange vibrations like Stan did.  
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2009, 06:24:47 PM »

Hey Al
 
In case you hadn't thought of it. . . .
 
Front trans seal too
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2009, 12:50:20 AM »


Quote from: 67Newport
I'm replacing the converter while I have mine out. Why leave a 40 year old converter in when your putting in a new engine? $85 bucks well spent unless you want to end up with strange vibrations like Stan did.  



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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2009, 03:22:19 AM »

Just so I'm clear, if I want to pull the engine and trans together, I HAVE to remove the radiator support or is that optional?

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2009, 06:04:26 AM »

Uncle Hulka...As a complete novice, I think think the grille and radiator support would have to come out to pull the motor with the trans. attached...If it was me, I'd take hood off too for extra room. I very well could be thinking with my behind though...Perhaps some pros like Leaburn or Steve (or many others too ) could chime in to confirm...I'll be doing this with my Fury too (motor only)...I pulled the hood off on Monday with help from a friend...I plan on separating the motor from the trans. and pulling it straight up/out. I'm waiting to get a hoist now from a friend. Steve, what did you mean (exactly) by marking the converter/flexplate so when it goes back together you have no vibrations. I'm not sure what you mark...Do you have to begin separation and then get in there and mark something on both the motor and trans ends? Have any photos by any slim chance? Also...as a novice, can I pull a motor by myself?
 
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