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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 12:45:22 PM »

Yeah Glen
 
I'm thinking I have multiple cylinders on the left bank.  If you look at #3 and 5  you'll see they are cleaner and I think # 4 & 6 are the same way.  I was looking at the plugs today again and they don't have puffy black on them.
 
I think the fooling part now is there is no water at all in the engine so it blackend the plugs up because it running poorly.  (PCV is broken)
 
During the week I will get the left exhaust manifold off and see what I have.
 
I am pretty sure this car was over heated at one time.  There is a new water pump in there and that job was poorly done also.  It all but leaks.  It's just got 32,000 miles of real bad abuse on it, but it will be a real nice car when I am done. . .
 
Now I need the headliner and some trim done. . . (Hint Hint)  Once the heads are done, the rest is a cake walk. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 05:13:12 PM »

Not sure how you can lose "gallons" of antifreeze without seeing some indication - unless its a blown heater core and your carpet is floating!

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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2009, 07:42:48 PM »

All that antifreeze in the cat will damage it..
Once you figure it out,you may want to think about installing a cheap cat in there to keep the smog Nazi guys happy.
 
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2009, 07:47:17 PM »

Carpets are dry
 
I know Lea. . .  But I'll worry about it when the time comes
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2009, 07:04:16 AM »

Yeah, he has a long wood boring bit that will take care of that cat convertor......

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2009, 09:26:32 AM »

And I thought my problem was a doozy...Where in the heck could all that antifreeze be going? Gotta be out the exhaust! All your plugs look the same except for that center one...That one looks very black...other than that, all your photos look pretty normal.... Sorry to hear about this Steve. On the positive side...You have the right guys thinkin about it..
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2009, 10:08:00 AM »

I have had a similar problem with small block dodges in the past as well.  It happened with changing the intake. The gasket for the water cross over on the front or rear of the motor would not seal properly and the intake passage would suck the coolant right out of the motor and send it out the exhaust....would drain the rad in a few minutes.
 
I suspect this is what has been happening and as stated because of the cat you are not seeing the whtle glycol steam out the exhaust.
 
 
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2009, 10:19:29 AM »

Man...this news makes me worry even more about my intake work on both my 318's now. I'm going to keep a keen eye on my oil and my antifreeze from now on. furyfever2009-03-17 14:47:27
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2009, 03:36:53 PM »

Heh
 
Well they all look the same, except 1, 3, 5 and 6.  It turns out there is no water in the engine so the plugs got blackened by the poor running.  1,3,5 were clean and just have a fresh layer of soot because of the broken EGR. 
 
Damned glasses.. .My eyesite is getting worse.
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2009, 04:10:56 PM »

You need some damned kids over there to look at those plugs for ya Steve!...Where's Mob and P when ya need em? Get over there and be Steve's eyes for a night.!! I know what ya mean Steve...man o  man I just started to loose the close up stuff recently...really frustaratin!!
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2009, 09:19:53 PM »


Yup - first the close vision starts to go and you find yourself holding things out at arms length. Then you find your arms are too short. So off you go for new glasses - but - now you notice you need more light to see small stuff and driving at night starts to get iffy. You have to drag everything with small letters over to a window so you can see it in bright sun. Not sure what's next - maybe a white cane. 

I have discovered that a small keychain flashlight with LED bulbs is nice and bright and quickly becomes your best friend!   The one in the link is identical to mine, except mine says IBM.

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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2009, 06:54:41 AM »

Re: cracking heads:  it seems that's mostly a problem in the later small blocks - ie M bodies? 

I never saw a cracked  head on a a pre-74 318/340/360... for that
matter on a -pre '81 engine.  Casting quality was much better
then, apparently.



Re: Cats - the ethylene glycol doesn't necessarily evaporate - any
visible white would be only steam/water vapor, the glycol would be
burned /altered in combustion, which is hotter than the cat temp and
the precious metal catalytics (platinum,palladium etc) would not
chemically react with those products as they are not "designed" to do
so, so the glycol combustion products will go straight out the pipe but
are probably not visible... 



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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2009, 11:56:59 AM »

I would think the steam would be visiblebefore the cat heats up.
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2009, 01:11:04 PM »

That car won't be heating up for a bit yet
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2009, 01:15:25 PM »

So what years had head cracking issues... Leaburn??

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