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Bill Mounteer

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« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2009, 10:13:37 AM »




Never seen that sort of hole before, but it sure looks to be the right size to dump lots of raw antifreeze into the pan. Bummer! 

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« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2009, 12:33:56 PM »

I've seen plenty of small block "LA" covers with porosity problems,and awhile back i got one from E-bay,that i threw out because it was so bad!. Old anti-freeze will change to an acid and start eating aluminum quickly if not changed regularly! The newer style anti-freeze has a different formula so you don't have to change it as often,..but it still will happen! I've never seen one corroded that badly,but as you can see....one side was worse of than the other,thus,i'm thinking,...there was a lot of casting sand left in that block,and it was really getting sandblasted from the inside out!. I suspect those intake gaskets myself! Flush the engine a couple of times,new fluids,..some good Fel-Pro paper style gaskets and you don't have much to loose!. If it cooks the bearings,.....I can give you some hint's on how to build a 418" stroker small block to put in there!!
 
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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2009, 01:19:41 PM »


What do you guys think about this? After enjoying a picture perfect afternoon out hiking with my wife, I thought about it, came home and pulled the water pump....Hmmm...I'd say Chris is a genius...thank you...Now what guys...getting deeper and deeeeper now. Lower pulley, harmonic balancer and timing chain cover now? I bet you those bearings aren't much farther in now...
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« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2009, 02:53:08 PM »

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I've seen plenty of small block "LA" covers with porosity problems,and awhile back i got one from E-bay,that i threw out because it was so bad!. Old anti-freeze will change to an acid and start eating aluminum quickly if not changed regularly! The newer style anti-freeze has a different formula so you don't have to change it as often,..but it still will happen! I've never seen one corroded that badly,but as you can see....one side was worse of than the other,thus,i'm thinking,...there was a lot of casting sand left in that block,and it was really getting sandblasted from the inside out!. I suspect those intake gaskets myself! Flush the engine a couple of times,new fluids,..some good Fel-Pro paper style gaskets and you don't have much to loose!. If it cooks the bearings,.....I can give you some hint's on how to build a 418" stroker small block to put in there!!
 
 
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« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2009, 02:55:06 PM »

Guess you need a cover Bob
 
I'm glad Chris brought that up now.  Like I said, you live and learn.
 
Those covers should be pretty easy to find.
 
I was wrong. 
 
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« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2009, 02:55:07 PM »

Yep,while yer at it new timing chain and gears.
It will end up being a  rebuild,IMO.
I am glad to found that and thanks to Chris for pointing that out.
If you need a used timing cover--and looks like you do-
Call Jack Forkey 315-783-0540 in Clayton,NY.
He has piles of Mopar only parts. 
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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2009, 03:56:08 PM »


Good job with the detective work, guys, even though the bad news is the engine is gonna hafta be torn down (not to say "I told ya so"...but I did)

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« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2009, 05:16:29 PM »

The pre-70 cover has the timing numbers on the pass side  and the 1970 and up has them on the drivers side  and there is one Michael Jackson (oddball) one where there is no hump  Make sure you get the correct one!  GREAT investigating guys!!!!!
 
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« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2009, 05:37:35 PM »


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and there is one Michael Jackson one where there is no hump.......





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« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2009, 06:12:30 PM »

It feels pretty good to be on the giving end of tech advice. Usually I'm on the asking for advice end of it. Glad you found the problem.
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« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2009, 07:01:19 PM »

If anybody would have the right one, Jack would.
 
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« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2009, 08:02:02 PM »

If the motor is wiped,Jack does have a really good running 1969 318.
 Also the 383 in the 65 Town Seedan is a runner as well.
Just in is a running 66 SF 383 4 speed car.Frame rails front and back are crispy.
 
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« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2009, 09:08:11 PM »


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Just in is a running 66 SF 383 4 speed car.Frame rails front and back are crispy.
Grab the pedals, clutch linkage, and the hump.....

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« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2009, 09:19:01 PM »

...but then that's a whole  different thread....

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« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2009, 04:33:12 AM »

Quote from: owatajrkiam
The pre-70 cover has the timing numbers on the pass side  and the 1970 and up has them on the drivers side  and there is one Michael Jackson (oddball) one where there is no hump  Make sure you get the correct one!  GREAT investigating guys!!!!!
 
 
Thanks for looking around for me Glen...Man you guys are all fantastic. I feel like I'm really being taken care of here. Looks like the pre-70 cover (the top one) is it! I'll try to get some numbers off mine though to make absolutely sure.....and there's 3 days left to the auction. Anybody know what I should have to pay for one of these?
 
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If the motor is wiped,Jack does have a really good running 1969 318.
 Also the 383 in the 65 Town Seedan is a runner as well.
Just in is a running 66 SF 383 4 speed car.Frame rails front and back are crispy.
 
Food for thought
Tell me guys...would a 383 plop right in there or would there be a lot of mods. involved? Would my trans. be compatible? I have a feeling it wouldn't. I know what a rebuild will cost me if I hire it out...~2k I bet...Not sure I want to spend it on a 318....perhaps I can take my time and do it myself?...keep the cost down while learning how to rebuild an engine? Or I can always buy something that runs good already and swap it out...I guess I should slow down and review all my options...Thanks to all...
 
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