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Steve

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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2009, 03:01:48 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2009, 05:59:10 PM »

The 2536430 is the casting # and the 10 behind it is what they call the tooling revision #!. This is how many times the core molds have been refreshed or reconditioned! On 340 blocks they are mostly stamped this way,but i have never seen any after 8 revisions!. However,i have seen a 440 with the #12 as of course there were plenty more 440's as there were 340's.Sometimes the cores would shift and this is how they kept track of them! That's definately a 440 block stamped 383,but i suppose if there were a beer strike in Trenton at that time,and some line workers come north to get some REAL beer,.....well,....i guess anything would be possible then!!!!!. On the tranny.....being that it is a 71' model,you got some upgrades such as part throttle kickdown and some other features not found in the early model!
 
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« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2009, 05:25:09 AM »

Now go look at the rear top of the block right behind the Oil Pressure sender & see if the VIN is there.   Since the block is cast Jan 68 the cars build date should be after that & it's more than half-way through the model year it might just be there.

Very top looking straight down adjacent to the Bellhousing.     If it was a matching trans it would be cast on the top of the Bell also so they'd be right next to each other.

This is a 68 only thing & even then it was later in the model year.    69 went to the standardized location of Pan rail & side of the trans for Vins.

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« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2009, 01:28:48 PM »

I learn more and more everyday from you guys. HemiFury, there's no way I can see that number without removing the hood and I don't want to get into that right now. I'll see if I can get someone smaller than myself to climb in and take a peek.

Owatajrkiam, Thanks so much for setting me straight on what those extra 2 digits are doing in my block casting number. Two questions:

1) After the new tooling is in place, for how long did they keep stamping the tooling revision number onto the block? Couldn't be too long because it's not seen on most blocks. I figure it was just for a week or so.

2) Are you any relation to Galen?

Thanks once again to all you guys! So much knowledge. If all the brain power here was applied to something really important, we could come up with stuff like a new beer that never goes flat:-)

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« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2009, 02:56:12 PM »


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I learn more and more everyday from you guys.

 If all the brain power here was applied to something really important, we could come up with stuff like a new beer that never goes flat:-)

Already done that...



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« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2009, 03:13:36 PM »

[/QUOTE]
 
Try an inspection mirror or an old rear view mirror.
 
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« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2009, 03:27:36 PM »


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Stan: How can something already stale go stale?
It's sorta like Blue Cheese.  You can't tell when it goes bad.

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« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2009, 03:35:34 PM »


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Quote from: POLARACO
Stan: How can something already stale go stale?
It's sorta like Blue Cheese.  You can't tell when it goes bad.

Bad analogy. No such thing as Bad Beer....just bad beer drinkers

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« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2009, 05:19:16 PM »

Steel Reserve starts out bad. but boy is it ohh so good.
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« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2009, 10:47:46 AM »



OK guys....while we are checking #'s, how about my 440 Steve just brought to my house?

The numbers are:
2536430-9 = 1967-1972 440 RB on it's 9th casting revision
5-7-71 = May 7th 1971 casting date

but here's the oil pan rail #'s:
 2C171482


any ideas? I was told it's a HP 440 from 1972.....it has a beat up C body oil pan on it, but other than that no info on it.....


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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2009, 11:24:55 AM »

Since it has the steel crank, all is good...

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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2009, 11:28:06 AM »

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Oh I get it. . .you make me drag that thing all over, man handle it off the trailer, only to sell it? 
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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2009, 12:28:04 PM »

who said anything about selling it?

It could end up being like Stan's 440-OAB.....only it would sure stay ON BUDGET


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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2009, 01:03:17 PM »



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.....only it would sure stay ON BUDGET


BS!
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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2009, 01:40:10 PM »

My Roadrunner's 383 stayed on budget, unless something is cracked or it falls off the engine stand, why wouldn't this one?

You have to budget for everything in the beginning! If the motor ends up not needing to be align bored or only needs a good honing, then you end up ahead of the game. If you figure everything first, it looks expensive.......but it can come out cheaper in the end.


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