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Dan Cluley

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Front wheel drive gives you better traction, right
« on: December 20, 2008, 12:37:30 AM »

Doesn't do much good without enough ground clearance!


We got about 6 inches of snow on Fri morning.  The main streets are all clear, but the side street where my girlfriend Jen lives has not been plowed yet.



 
Between 9 and 11pm I was in and out of the block 3 times and had no real trouble (driving the Dart)
 
Each trip, there was a different small late model car stuck trying to get onto her street.
 
 
The first guy was out working with a shovel.
 
The second trip, the guy had just gotten stuck, and I suspect he was going to be able to just back out.
 
The final time, they pushed an Escort with an Expedition (that's not gonna scuff a bumper )
 
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Yes, I do realise that I've just cursed myself, and probably won't make it out of the driveway today. 
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Leaburn Patey

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2008, 02:15:33 AM »

I park the Crapalier and the Dippy sees service in bad weather.
Full tank of gas for wieght and snow tires on all four corners,the thing is a tank in  the snow.
I get around no problem.
I had to drive my wife last night to her work and the roads were terrible and visibility almost nil.With some negotiating the wheel and fishtailing I got her there and made it home safe.
 I am more comfortable in my RWD Diplomat since I can predict and control the vehicle.
I hate FWD in the snow.
The Cavalier is so light  it is skittish and I do not like the way it feels in poor weather--and it even has snow tires on it.
Maybe it is me but it is unpredictable and recovery is a different ball game compared to RWD,IMO.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 05:47:30 AM »

only fwd worth driving is a 76 eldorado... enough wieght there to keep ya planted... The NYer is great in the snow... but the tires are pretty bald now... oh well.


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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2008, 05:51:04 AM »

The big Olds Toronado fwd is pretty good too, '66  to 78. I've had
3 '68/69s. In '79 they downsized.  The secret to any winter car is
balancing weight front and read and 4 STUDDED snow tires... awesome!


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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 06:57:25 AM »

I dunno. . .
 
Elaines Charger and Polaraco came out of my ice covered driveway this morning as easily as my 4 X 4 buss did
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2008, 10:53:25 PM »

Quote from: CBarge
Maybe it is me but it is unpredictable and recovery is a different ball game compared to RWD,IMO.
 
 
They definitely handle differently.  I think most people younger than us learned on FWD and are more used to them.
 
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Eldorados are cool.
 
I like the 1st gen Toronado's, the 70's ones less so (the extra tailights by the rear window are cool though)
 
A 79-85 is on my short list of cars I'd like to own someday.
 
 
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They did plow the street today, but next door somebody still got a Jetta hung up in the snowbank by not swinging wide enough into a very narrow driveway.
 
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2008, 06:04:38 AM »

Think about it,control is key.
Why do you think the drifting sport is so popular? Mainly because the cars used are RWD or AWD where 70% of the power is going to the rear wheels.
Dirt Rally cars are AWD.Nobody uses FWD in dirt rallies simply they just dont work in that environment .
Personally,I prefer to drive a certain speed in poor conditions to maintain momentum.Nothing worse than being stuck behind someone driving too slow for me and then my car bogs down.
We are getting hit again hard the second time today.The radio begged people to stay of the roads.Again I had to drive my wife to work.
I was behind a Chebbie Equinox AWD.Stupid idiot is going 15 MPH
Park it buddy if you can't deal with it,IMO
I was doing a cozy 40 MPH
 
I enjoy driving in the snow.
The tradition in my house is doing donuts in the very first major snowfall with a car load of family or friends.
Geri actually looks forward to it every year.
However I only go out when I really have to.
Zero visibilty,I am parked til it clears.
Common sense tells me that.
Just looked outside <sigh>
I need more cars parked in my driveway so I wont have to shovel as much.....
 
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2008, 06:43:14 AM »

Regardless...
I will never own a FWD.

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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2008, 07:06:39 AM »

FWD does get up steep hills better than RWD when the plows don't do their job (like out here in Eastern PA)....the Neon, throttle properly modulated, will climb without slipping better than my 4WD Dakota without weight in the bed.




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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2008, 04:30:16 PM »

On those toronados... absolutely cool cars... def wouldnt mind owning one... I only mention the 76/77 model eldo cause it reminds me of one my pops had.

oddly enough my next beater will probably be a FWD... 84/85 Buick Riviera... if i get lucky maybe a newer style deville (94-98) but thats on the rich end...

My now sold super cheapily 92 deville was great in the snow as well...

My old 83 town car RWD couldnt climb a hill for its life in any type of snow... but it would do awesome snowdoughnuts...

I like those 79-85 eldos too. but gah the 4100 series v8 is a disaster... You have to get a 79 or 80, or a factory replaced diesel model, or do the 350 conversion... on the 4.1 i know a guy has one (83 eldo) with 34,000 miles and the things already got a bottom end knock... stupid coolant keeps seeping in through the heads...




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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 03:49:38 AM »

Yeah, that 4100 one was yet another lemon from GM, and right on the
heels of their diesel disaster... that one really pissed me off,
becasue I really wanted a luxurious Olds 98 that got 30+ mpg! I'm told
by diesel experts that the last 2 yrs of the GM 350 diesel actually
were pretty good, but by then they were dead meat.



 Eric "On the Roof" Carlsson did pretty good with fwd Saab 93s and
96s in European Rallying (the only real kind) back in the day...he
dominated it for years, later the Group B Lancia Deltas with their
insane power came along - only to be banned they were so
dangerous.  My '67 Saab 96 was incredible in snow, I once went up
a really steep hill in snow and was the only vehicle to do so, a pile
of cars at the bottom tried and slid back down. It was because it was
incredibly well balanced, had skinny tires, and very smooth power
delivery, and not much power to break the wheels loose.  Living in
N Vermont for 10 years, (30 miles from Quebec) you quickly learned what
worked... we had real mountains along with our snow.



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