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« Reply #255 on: January 13, 2010, 05:20:04 PM »

Well been a little while since I really worked on the wagon.  With Christmas and New Years and stuff you just never have the time you think you do.

Anyway I decided last night I would start tackling the tailshaft bushing on the 727 in the wagon.

With the drive line vibrations I was having, and the new drive shaft solving most of those problems.  I still have a small vibration.  I found that there was a fair amount of deflection in the yoke going into the tranny so I figured I'd replace the bushing to eliminate this as a potential problem.

Here's the kit i got off E-bay,



I wish it came with the old style rear seal, with the rubber boot as well, but will do the job.

I tried finding a similar kit locally and they couldn't get me anything.



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« Reply #256 on: January 13, 2010, 05:26:22 PM »

So I was a bit leery about tackling this job myself, so i did a bunch of research on-line to find out what would be entailed to do this.

I found this,

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1.    Shift transmission into manual low (1) position.
2.    Hoist and support vehicle on safety stands.
3.    Mark propeller shaft and axle yoke for alignment reference. Then disconnect and remove shaft.
4.    Remove vehicle speed sensor, speedometer adapter and speedometer pinion.
5.    Remove bolts attaching extension housing to rear support.
6.    Using a suitable lifting device, raise transmission off rear mount.
7.    Remove rear crossmember.
8.    Remove bolts holding extension housing to transmission case.
9.    Verify that transmission is in 1 position. Park lock rod is easier to disengage/engage in this position.
10.    Remove access plate and gasket from underside of extension housing.
11.    Using a snap ring plier, spread retaining ring holding rear bearing in extension housing
12.    While spreading retaining ring, pull extension away from transmission case.
13.    Separate extension housing from vehicle.

Followed this and everything went perfect.

Only thing I did also was drain the tranny first, since I figured I do a service while I had everything apart.

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« Reply #257 on: January 13, 2010, 05:35:31 PM »

So here are a few pics....



Had to lower tranny a few inches to get the tailshaft off.  It was hitting the torsion bar cross member.



Here you can see the snap ring that has to be "widened" to get the tailshaft off.



These are the Snap-on pliers I borrowed from a buddy to do this.  They are different then your normal snap ring pliers, they have little dimples in the outside surfaces to grip the points on the snap ring.






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« Reply #258 on: January 13, 2010, 05:42:12 PM »

So once the tailshaft was off I needed to remove the old bushing.  I could see that it was pretty worn.

The new bushing came with some general instructions on the removal and re-install, but nothing in depth.

As you can see in the pic there is a grove at approx 7-O'clock. That is where you need to remove the tension of the bushing.  



The instruction stated to use a small chisel to cut through the bushing.  I decided to use a hacksaw blade.  It took me probably 15-20 minutes to cut through the bushing and then use a small punch to drive it down into the housing.





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« Reply #259 on: January 13, 2010, 05:51:27 PM »

Now came the fun part, re-installing the new bushing without screwing anything up.

I posted on a few of the boards I frequent, and Steve (Polaraco) game me the go to idea to get this done.

He told me to use a big socket and an extension, BUT to put the extension down the front of the socket and use the big flat back of the socket as the flat driving surface...Brilliant!!



I had put the bushing in the freezer yesterday, hoping it would shrink a little for when I went to install it.

I put the bushing in place, lubed everything up with oil and began driving it down.  Now the only thing with this bushing is that it has a hole in the top that has to line up with the tranny fluid gravity feed to the bushing.  Other then that alignment it was a straight shot down and in!!



Now it's just clean everything really well, install the rest of the seals and gaskets and put everything back together.





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« Reply #260 on: January 13, 2010, 06:48:18 PM »

Good Job!
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« Reply #261 on: January 13, 2010, 07:03:23 PM »


Quote from: POLARACO
Good Job!

Couldn't have done it without your sagely advice...Thanks again Steve!!!

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« Reply #262 on: January 14, 2010, 03:55:00 AM »

Great pics, thanks for the lesson!!

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« Reply #263 on: January 14, 2010, 07:32:32 PM »


Quote from: firedome
Great pics, thanks for the lesson!!

No problem.  Hope it helps someone else down the road.

 I know I was more then a little hesitant about doing this myself but after weeks of putting it off I figured I better just get in there and get it done.

I knew if I had any problems I could come to my friends for help and advice.



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« Reply #264 on: January 14, 2010, 08:20:08 PM »

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« Reply #265 on: January 15, 2010, 04:19:02 AM »

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« Reply #266 on: January 16, 2010, 03:48:58 AM »

Wow, you made that look easy! I also FINALLY read your posts on the grille upgrade.  I thought I'd really like the look, but after I saw it I'm not as revved up about it.  Stock is better, unless you replace the entire front clip. 
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« Reply #267 on: January 16, 2010, 08:47:01 AM »

..and I know where to get the frt.clip  for the conversion...heh heh..

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« Reply #268 on: January 16, 2010, 03:57:26 PM »

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..and I know where to get the frt.clip  for the conversion...heh heh..
 Me too.
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« Reply #269 on: January 19, 2010, 04:14:18 PM »

Well I finished up the tailshaft last night and got everything put back together and re-installed.

I didn't like the rear tailshaft seal that came in the kit, would have preferred an OEM style one.



But I wasn't able to find one exactly the same.

The red one is the one that came in the kit, the green one is the best I could find locally.



Not perfect but much better then the red one.

No problems putting everything back together.  Little tricky getting the snap ring back over and seated on the rear tailshaft bearing.  Other then that it all went back together with minimal swearing and fighting.  But man 10 bolts to hold the tranny cross member in!!

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