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« Reply #285 on: August 09, 2010, 09:53:20 PM »

Day of the Holiday.....



I almost didn't get to take the wagon.  We  loaded up and left the
house, wife wanted to stop at Tim Horton's first,  so parked and things
didn't feel right.  The wagon's brakes were  dragging, I adjusted the
rear valve off all the way, still dragging, in  fact it was taking
1100rpm to get the car to move!!  Decided to go home  and work on it for
 an hour and see if I could fix it, if not then we  would have taken the
 wife's 02 Concorde.



On the drive back home, 10 miles or so, the brakes got so hot you could
 smell them in the car, and it was taking more and more power from the
big ol' 440 just to keep it moving down the road. Got home and jacked
the front end up, the front wheels wouldn't move!!  So I figured it must
  be a MC problem.



I loosened off the MC low and behold the front wheels spun! So obviously
  I set the push rod length too long.  I backed the push rod off about
3/16 and bolted things back together, took it around the block and all
was well.  Loaded up the family and headed for the hills.  No problems
with the braking system on the trip, other then my warped front rotors,
 but still have to fine tune the rear brakes.



Car is now resting nicely after another 800 mile family vacation trip.
            

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« Reply #286 on: January 29, 2011, 07:32:21 PM »

Well I finally received a little present from a C-body member in Holland....

Originally from a Euro-export 68 Chrysler 300.....





Will get this into the wagon later this year.  Just very happy to have it in my possession....



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« Reply #287 on: January 29, 2011, 08:09:49 PM »


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« Reply #288 on: August 22, 2012, 09:07:08 PM »

Well I've been busy working on the fleet...and finally taking a few minutes to update a few threads.

I
 finally got tired of the front rotors on the wagon shuddering.  They
got warped while driving through some nasty hills and having to brake A
LOT!!  Anyway it was to the point I didn't want to drive the ol'
girl...and I couldn't have that.  So I decided to take a chance on some
drilled and slotted rotors I saw on E-bay. 

I put a set like these ones on all 4 corners of the wife's 02 Concorde....love the braking!!  SO figured I'd give them a chance at $160 Delivered!! 

Here they are...





They came with new bearing races installed too!  I'm very happy with them.



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« Reply #289 on: August 22, 2012, 09:08:51 PM »

And comparing the old and new....










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« Reply #290 on: August 22, 2012, 09:12:59 PM »

And old verses new installed....





Only
 thing I should have done first before installing them is wash them
thoroughly in the parts washer.  There was a lot of small metal debris
from the machining inside the rotor.  It got allover the place, and even
 behind the brake pads. Had to pop off the calipers and pads when one
side started grabbing harder then the other.  But a good cleaning had
things working properly.

As for the braking...Couldn't be happier!  It hauls down from speed very quickly.


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« Reply #291 on: August 22, 2012, 09:25:03 PM »

After taking the wagon to the street legal drags last week I decided to
try changing my ignition system from the pertronix to the tried and true
 Mopar Electronic ignition.  I picked up a junkyard 440 electronic dizzy
 a year or two ago from a 78 1/2 ton dodge van with a factory 440 in
it!!  Anyway I was just going to toss it in but decided I better open it
 up and check things out...glad I did!!





As
 you can see the dizzy had some rust in it.  Never seen this kind of
rust inside a dizzy before.  I'm thinking maybe the van ended up in a
river, or lake. And only some of the water got out of the dizzy and the
rest caused all the rust.  Anyway some time in the parts washer, and
some time with some 280 grit sand paper and PB Blaster cleaned
everything right up.



Reassembled everything with a good coating of motor oil and installed it. 


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« Reply #292 on: August 22, 2012, 09:31:59 PM »

I then had to wire up the electronic control module.  Got a darn good
wiring diagram from some guy on moparts...when I bought a bunch of slant
 6 stuff for my Desoto.  Anyway real easy wiring, but needed to figure
out where to mount the box.  First I was going to mount it under the
batter tray...but was looking at the 40 feet of wiring I was going to
need and thought there had to be a better place.  Didn't want to drill
any new holes in the firewall, so was standing looking at things when I
remembered a factory? or aftermarket mounting location on the back side
of  RB and B motors. 

So off to my bucket of misc brackets and crap and found a  bracket piece off a 93 Cummins A/C condensor.  The holes lied up perfectly with the back bolt holes.  Just needed to weld on a couple nuts and bolt it together.



And installed....







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« Reply #293 on: August 22, 2012, 09:44:43 PM »

Put on a nice new shiny control box and turned the
key...and....Nothing!!  Checked to make sure I had wired it up
properly...yup.  Checked my 12V ignition source...no problems.  Then
pulled a plug wire and installed a plug...no spark!  So off came the new
 shiny control box and on went an original until from say 1975-ish? 
Anyway got everything reinstalled and turned the key and it fired right
up...even though I still had the plug wire unhooked from the motor and
plugged into the spare spark plug...:)

Tried to time the motor
but could get a visual on the timing mark.  Tried the white chalk/soap
stone I've been using for years...nothing.  Changed which plug wires I
was using...still no sign of it.  Tried black felt...again nothing.  Not
 sure why I couldn't get a visual on the timing mark, but regardless I
did the timing by ear and by vacuum.  Took it for a drive...had to
adjust the timing a couple more times..but finally got it hauling a$$. 

Motor
 has never run so strong!  Before I could not get the back tire to light
 up (no suregrip) Now I barely give it some throttle and that back tire
is spinning.  Also when I first fired the motor it was smoking badly...I
 initially thought I had hurt something in the old motor when pounding
on it down the quarter mile.  But after a few runs out on the street it
seemed to clear up.  I think it now has a hot enough spark to burn off
the crud that used to build up on several of the plugs, and pistons.  I
think the old pertronic was just WEAK!! 

Also found the vacuum
advance canister on the pertronix dizzy was toast...sucking air.  Think
this is where my idle fluctuation was coming from.  With the new Mopar
ignition system...and a good vacuum advance canister...it's running nice
 and smooth now.

Very happy again with the way things turned out!! 


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« Reply #294 on: August 22, 2012, 10:09:37 PM »

I also finally got the rear grab handles on the wagon.  Had the grab
handles and tried to install them a couple years ago, but found the
upper trim would not fit between the handles.  I assumed that the rear
trim piece was a grab handle specific piece, so I had been looking for
one for some time now.  Anyway a local guy was parting out a rusty 68
T/C wagon...and I managed to get that stainless piece!!  Found out that
the stainless piece is proportionally the same as the non-grab handle
piece...the only difference is in the over all length, or width
depending on how you look at it.  The grab handle piece is about one
inch (1") shorter on each end...that's it!! 

This is the piece
I'm referring too...this is from when I attempted to install them a
couple years ago.  You can see how the rear edge trim piece would not
fit on the grab handle.



So to all those wagon guys who might want to upgrade their non-grab handled 65-68 C-body wagon...you can either find the correct piece...or hack down your original non-grab handle trim.


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« Reply #295 on: August 23, 2012, 05:58:40 AM »



Pretty cool
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« Reply #296 on: August 23, 2012, 08:45:51 AM »

Brian go get a can of top end cleaner from a GM dealer, that will clean out the remainder of the crud that the electronic upgrade did not, used that stuff on an 87 Omni that pinged no matter what octane grade I used, after spraying it into the carb while she was running no more ping.

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« Reply #297 on: August 23, 2012, 11:18:07 AM »

I've done the water being poured slowly into the carb, while fluctuating the idle to keep it running.  Worked pretty good.  But I'll look into the product you suggested.





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« Reply #298 on: August 23, 2012, 05:33:31 PM »



SEA FOAM!  That what's the GM stuff is  Wally World
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« Reply #299 on: September 23, 2012, 06:32:11 PM »


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