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Robert Rottman

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2008, 10:20:13 AM »

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People's taste is such an interesting thing.
If it ends up on a logo I'll not buy one.
Just my opinion.
 However, if you want it, how much do you want it?  If they guy won't budge....
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2008, 10:51:45 AM »

Logo?  As far as "taste" is concerned, Exner's inspired 57-59
Forward Look cars are considered by connoisseurs of auto design
worldwide to be among the greatest and most original US designs of the
era, if not of all time, a fact reflected by their current huge
popularity overseas. More of them seem to be in Europe these days than
are left in the US.  A visit online to the Vasteras (Sweden) Show
or the Power Show (Norway?) is a true eye opener.  The Elwood
Engle boxes of the mid '60s, though clean and functional, and as good
as anything mechanically, will never be mistaken for a design
icon.  The lines of the fuselage cars comprised a major aesthetic
improvement. That said, some of the later FL 60-61's were not my
particular favorites either... but they were meddled with by management
dictates and the victim of particularly insidious design by
committee.  The rarity factor, though, also comes into play, as
far as current desirability is concerned. My personal 1961 Belvy became
a great favorite, and if the opportunity presents itself, I'll not turn
down another.

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Stan Paralikis

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2008, 02:02:42 PM »

If you think in terms of fins as form following function, yah, fins look stupid, ungainly, and misproportioned.  But that is not what we are talking here.  Auto design evokes emotion.  personally, I can look at a Piccasso and could care less about it unless to line the bottom of a bird cage.  Show me a '57 Desoto and I lust like a 15 year old boy at a Hannah Montana poster.
 
Which is more beautiful"
 
This:
 

(ya, it's a kadiddlyak, but, it makes my point)
 
Or:
 

 
B O R I I I I I N G !

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2008, 01:19:34 PM »

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31015961@N02/sets/72157607636865312/

This looks like a fun car. Needs quite a bit of work though.....It does'nt look like it needs work from 20 ft......I'm tempted....I keep promising myself I'll get one that's all ready been done up right.....So far haven't found it though, mainly because those cars are big $...and the ones that are priced right go quick...
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2008, 02:38:06 PM »

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or is that an understatement? .... Is it all fin Mopes in general or just the 60?? I even like the 61...and that's the one most people literally hurl over...
 
It's an understatement, but I didn't want to piss anyone off.  I'll join you in that hurling over the '61 Plymouth's and Dodges.
 
It's not the entire FL line, as I have always liked the Chryslers of the entire era of '57-'62.  I like the Dodges up through '59, and the deSotos trough '59 as well. 
 
But Plymouth I've never had a thing for.  I think Fogel's '58 is sweet, but if I were buying a '58 car of any make, Plymouth would not be on my radar.  When it comes to the '60 in question, that profile shot in the ad hurts my eyes.  That's one reason why the whole "Miss Belvedere" craze leaves me scratching my head. 
 
But '61?  What were they thinking?
 
Again, it's a taste issue - there are those who truly love these cars.  I'm just not one of them.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2008, 06:35:16 PM »


C'mon Snotty....this 61 Plymee looks so cool!






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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 02:20:23 AM »

My dream car.....
A big honkin 2 dr. sedan, low-line model, no options, all engine! Why, why, why did I sell my Fury?
 


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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 10:54:13 AM »

The '61 Mopes made a huge collective thud in the marketplace, that's
for sure.  One of my best friend's Dad was the Sales Manager of a
Dodge dealer in Baltimore. His favorite saleman's patter for that year
was:  "well, you ride on the inside, not on the outside" !... I
came to love my '61 Plym just BECAUSE of its sheer bizarreness. 



BTW I know that black car - it's in Rhode Island or MA as I recall
-  a friend who owns 3 '61s in CT got a ride in it - that is one
fast car! 



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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2008, 11:55:39 AM »

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I didn't know that Snottster!!! I LOVE the fin cars ALL of em (Mopars anyway) But I have a soft spot for the 60 Plymouths because it is the first car I remember riding in,I came home from the hospital in a 60 Plymouth Fury 4 door black with a white top and white accent on the front with red interior.
I guess it depends on how bad you want it Bob but keep in touch with the guy and as he sits on it longer and longer he'll take less money for it especially in todays economy.
Just hang in there.
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2008, 02:58:25 PM »

Thanks Ardog...I would pay his price if the car didn't need anything. The aftermarket seatcovers would have to go, the door panels are worn and the chrome needs replating/stainless needs straightening/polished. I'm sure there's more but that's what I know about as of right now. Perhaps he'll come to his senses. It kills me, I've called the broker on two seperate occasions now and both times he tells me that he has somebody else hot on it... He trys to make me think I need to act quickly....Nobody commented on this 60 that I found yesterday. It's near Detroit if anyone is interested. A nice 20 footer that's starting to rust out again. Check it out below. (1/4 price of the Fury) 
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2008, 07:51:28 PM »



Quote from: firedome



BTW I know that black car - it's in Rhode Island or MA as I recall
-  a friend who owns 3 '61s in CT got a ride in it - that is one
fast car! 




While we're on the subject....what is your take on the originality of that car?

I fell in love with it out at the 07 Hershey AACA meet, but since then I have found a pic in HOT ROD or similar mag that showed what looked like that car being built from a lesser engined car. I know that the parts were available over the dealer's counter to make the NHRA Super Stock 413 Sonoramic cars, but their main factory backed car was the 361-383 rams. This 413 was out for a very short time because the 413 Max Wedge cars were being readied for the '62 model year.

There is so little documentation on these rare cars that AACA judges wouldn't know how to judge it....other than a job well done and correct for the era.

Real or not, it is a perfect representative of the lengths that Chrysler went through to beat Ford and Pontiac back in the early 60's Super Stock wars.



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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2008, 11:29:39 AM »

Stitch Bob - I think that's right... I believe, it that was a wide
block 318 or some such originally, and the guy dropped in a 413, maybe
from an Imp I recall, and added the dual quads and long ram intakes.
Ray in CT would know for sure, he's the guy with 3 '61s,  and he
knows that black car guy in Mass. (I can't remember his name) . 
They had a big advantage over GM/Ferd - even stock, those cars are
lighter than most people realize, like 3100lbs.  It's wicked fast.
And a '62 was even lighter. I want a '62 Dart or Plym in the worst way!

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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2008, 10:18:07 AM »

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Bobby, the motor looks great, but the body....
 

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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2008, 10:18:38 AM »

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I didn't know that Snottster!!!
 
Sorry Brother Ar.
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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2008, 01:17:53 PM »

But Gremlins are OK? 
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