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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2008, 05:27:14 PM »

Ignition switch.  Have you looked at the connector at the bottom of the column?
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2008, 05:40:49 PM »

Quote from: BigMike
That'd be good and all, except for the fact that he sold the Junk...  And what's this MAD conversion?
http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml
Basically,Big Mike loop a good guaged wire from the BATT stud of the alternator and using a fusible link,connect it to the BATT stud of the starter relay.
You should do this to the green F3 you just bought.
NO more nuclear meltdowns at the bulkhead connector,and/or behind the dash.
Both my old 71 Coronet and  the C Barge suffered meltdowns.No problems since I rewired them.
I did the MAD to the BOAB right away before setting a battery in it.
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2008, 05:50:04 PM »

I am concerned that should Mobby ignore --or should I say put things off-that Nadine will end up a crispy C

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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2008, 06:02:10 PM »

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Quote from: BigMike
That'd be good and all, except for the fact that he sold the Junk...  And what's this MAD conversion?
http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml
Basically,Big Mike loop a good guaged wire from the BATT stud of the alternator and using a fusible link,connect it to the BATT stud of the starter relay.
You should do this to the green F3 you just bought.
NO more nuclear meltdowns at the bulkhead connector,and/or behind the dash.
Both my old 71 Coronet and  the C Barge suffered meltdowns.No problems since I rewired them.
 
Leaburn!  What's wrong with you!
 
Don't go giving him ideas like that without someone who knows what he is doing.  It's hard enough to get him to start and finish one project.  No bypasses yet.  The charging system is working fine.
 
Mike, I gave you the list to work on. . . Do that. Then we'll work on that stuff when you are driving the car.  Get the brakes done.  That's the biggest one.  Then you can take day trips up here for the accessories and quick repairs.
 
Mobby needs an ignition switch, or maybe a relay. 
 
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2008, 06:04:47 PM »

Quote from: CBarge
I am concerned that should Mobby ignore --or should I say put things off-that Nadine will end up a crispy C
 
On Star strikes again!
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2008, 06:09:43 PM »

[/QUOTE]
 
I'm not going to help you if you are going to run off in 20 directions without asking.
 
I'm pi$$ed at you now.  I told you it was NOT a safety swu\\itch, but you didn't listen.
 
READ MY LIPS!  FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2008, 08:16:40 PM »


http://www.moparaction.com/Tech/quest1/DODGE_GREMLIN.html

This sounds like Mobby's problem. For info on what the %*&$ Leaburn was talkin about read the next post....but unless Mobby changed his alternator with a heavier duty one, he probably won't need to fix this part....

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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2008, 08:25:45 PM »

From the Imperial site:

"QuestionIs it
      possible to build a shunt or jumper across the back of the amp
      gauge  to take some of the load (read heat) off of the gauge
      itself? Would you, should you put a fuse in the shunt/jumper to help prevent
      a harness meltdown since the gauge kind of serves that purpose now? I have
      always thought this design feature of a Chrysler product, of running the
      entire charging/elect. system through the gauge was a poor idea and has
      left many a person stranded and ticked off (me included) Just an idea, comments?

      Reply :
      Actually
        the shunt is built into the ammeter. If you look closely, you will see
        that a fairly heavy piece of metal connects between the two posts of the
        ammeter. This is one reason they are as durable as they are. Some of the
        designs, however, have the posts bonded to the metal shunt by staking
        the posts against the shunt - this appears like a small spur of metal
        spread out from the post mashed down against the shunt metal. Sometimes
        there is also a piece of insulating material between the two and there
        is only a pressure contact between a shank on the post and the shunt.
        If there is any overheating at all for any reason, the fiber insulating
        material used chars and begins to fall away from the area leaving a loose
        connection which causes even more overheating of the connections and erratic
        operation of the gauge. Sometimes these can be repaired using nuts of
        the correct size and thread along with suitable "star washers"
        to re-establish a good connection between the shunt metal and the posts
        (after first cleaning away the remaining charred insulation material).
        I was able to repair the ammeter gauge on a Dodge pickup this year for
        my son this way. Be prepared to make front to back depth adjustments if
        necessary to the dash area that receives the gauge if the extra nuts push
        the gauge too far forward when installed in the instrument cluster. How
        to do that is left to your own investigation and imagination. 
      One
        common cause of problems to start with is people who mistakenly install
        a heavier alternator for the original, thus forcing heavier current through
        the original gauge than it is designed to handle. My son's pickup suffered
        from this. The original alternator was a 75 amp unit which had been replaced
        with a 120 amp unit. The original ammeter circuit fed the ammeter leads
        through a bulkhead connector to the ammeter and back through to charge
        the battery. The contacts in the bulkhead connector were not designed
        to handle 120 amps. Even the 75 amps originally intended may have been
        marginal! The heavy current charred the contacts, started corrosion of
        the contacts which made the problem even worse and eventually almost ignited
        the plastic insulation of the bulkhead connector. Examination of the service
        manual showed that although the same ammeter was used for both applications
        (regular duty and heavy duty alternators) units produced with the heavy
        duty alternator routed wires through a feed-through grommet in the firewall
        instead of going through a bulkhead connector. They knew that the connector
        could have no hope of holding up under that kind of current. We had to
        modify the engine compartment wiring from the alternator all the way through
        a newly installed feed through grommet and back into the firewall to the
        battery etc. to cure the problem along with repairing the ammeter as described
        previously. 
      The
        average mechanic would never have understood the issues involved. Thank
        goodness for my electrical engineering training! Most mechanics are no
        help on issues like this. Check your car to see if it has had a larger
        alternator installed than originally called for. You could have the same
        or similar problems."


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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2008, 04:29:11 AM »


see thats way better bobby...

NOW:
Steve, you gotta understand, i've got nine folks tellin me what to do, and about 300 little things wrong... stuff gets crossed up, even Matt and Bob had suggested that a Nuetral switch could be an issue and it was within my range of do ability.... I tried and if anything else it was preventitve for when that was gonna go...

With no heat or fan control, a bad heater core, a clanging 3rd member, a lack of brake lights, and a whinning transmission rounding out this months problems... Im sorry if when i attempt something it throws everything off kilter, maybe i shoulda just let P look at it? that seems to be the only thing i do right anymore...
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2008, 06:42:31 AM »

Here's what ya do Mob:
Right here, make a list of all the things that are wrong or broken with your car...#1, #2 , etc

ITEMIZE!

We will then look at it and see what is a stand alone problem or what could be a combined issue. We'll rearrange the list in order of urgency and then P will have something to go by.

All problems sound worse when 20 people tell you what to do in your ear, but 20 people on this forum can probably sort out and fix this mess.


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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2008, 07:31:11 AM »

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That's your damned problem!  You listen to too many people!!!  Who are the ones who always end up straightening out your messes after you don't listen???  You didn't think of that. . . .
 
Do what bob said, but prioritize the issues.
 
Like starting is number 1.  It's getting cold, so you need heat. . .#2 ect.
 
When is the last time you checked the oil and is it still leaking?
 
I can't keep going down there.  I have you and Mike  (BM) under my wing now.
 
Don't listen to those damned kids down there. .  . That always gets you in more trouble.  I'm almost 3 times your age, Lea is twice, Bobby is twice, Stan is the creator of the earth.  You think we might know what we're talking about?
 
If we can work this out right, we'll have a blitz.  That is if I can get bobby out of bed on a Sunday before noon
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2008, 07:33:24 AM »

I'm still mad at you
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2008, 07:09:48 PM »

....and Stan is gonna be mad at Steve now 

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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2008, 01:16:54 AM »

I'm getting into my Conestoga wagon and leaving now...

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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2008, 04:53:57 AM »

and I'll get mad at bobby
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