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Author Topic: 4 dr guy in a 2dr world door handle swap  (Read 3015 times)

Leaburn Patey

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« on: June 07, 2008, 07:02:42 PM »

Not all repro schtuff is marketed for the four door crowd.
There is some repro schtuff out there for four door Mopars--but not much at all.
In some cases,wagon lovers are completely ignored.
 
I bought some cheap repro "Made in Taiwan" door handles.
Cost of NOS rear door handles are sky high--if you can find them.
Plenty of 2 door handles out there whether they are new at the dealer,NOS or repro.
As we all know Ma used the same door handle for A/B/C and truck/vans for years.This can be an advantage to us barge owners with four doors.
Interchangability is another word for intelligent.
The only real difference is how they operated in relation to the door latch.
I had to convert my two rear door handles in order to work properly on my four door hardtop.
 
This tech thread can be used on 4 dr sedans and wagons..
 
Buying cheap repro's does have some minor drawbacks but I am used to "making it work".They are not perfect right out of the wrapper but much better than 40 year old pitted dull junk.The general public at cruise nights will not know the difference..
 
I will show step by step on how to convert the door handles to work on the rear doors of a C body ..
Unlike the front doors,the rear doors do not use any clips  between the handle and latch.More of a direct approach..
Shown here (removed from the car for better observation)
is how they work together..
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2008, 07:06:39 PM »

This swap requires re-using some parts from your original rear door handles since they are unique to the C body 4 door and wagon doors.
After pulling the handle off the car,remove the screw holding the rod and spring.Disassemble your new door handle as well.

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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2008, 07:10:46 PM »

Put the old door handle button in a bench vise.If you do not have a vise,clamp it in a pair of vise grips real tight.
Note on how the rod is positioned on the button before removing it---very important. Hammer out the old button if it is junk.
( If your button is in excellent shape,just install into your new door handle--done!.)
Careful not to bend the rod!!
You will need the rod that operates the door latch.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 07:18:43 PM »

You will need to knock out the wimpy little rod from your new door handle button as well.The quality really shows here when comparing the difference in the rods..The repro has a soft thin wire type rod compared to the beefy steel rod.

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 07:22:58 PM »

The repro door button has a smaller diameter hole and the original rod will not fit.This requires using a drill to ream out the button just enough so your factory rod can fit.It has to fit snug with no slack at all.
Do not use a too big of a drill bit,or your new button will be junk.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2008, 07:35:43 PM »

Clamp the rod in your vise---tight!! Align the button and tap it on with a rubber mallet.Make sure the splines are in all the way..
Very important that the angle of the rod matches the
way it was removed in order to match the latch.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2008, 07:38:09 PM »

Slide the long spring on the rod,and button up the door handle using the hardware from the old handle.


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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2008, 07:39:27 PM »

Handle is ready to install on rear door.

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2008, 07:45:21 PM »

Just a few more things to mention about these Taiwan knock offs.
Gaskets are terrible.Plus the studs and nuts are metric.Put away your 7/16" and get a 10mm to bolt it on the door.
Dont even think swapping the studs in the handle.They will strip and render the shiny handle junk.
No washers..You will have to use your own.

 
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2008, 07:47:48 PM »

Shown is the factory original gaskets on top and the repro's on bottom..Big difference..

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2008, 07:49:56 PM »

The repro gaskets do not even match the repro handle!!'
This looks like crap..

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 07:52:34 PM »

If at all possible,use the original gaskets if they  can be re-used.
If they have wax or paint built up on them,just use laquer thinner to clean them up.
Looks much better here....
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 12:03:45 PM »

great Tech Lea. usefull as i'll evenually be doing the same
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2008, 02:54:06 PM »

I didn't have that problem with the repros I got
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2008, 03:57:10 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
I didn't have that problem with the repros I got
 
Blame it on the rising price of Molson.  Lea had to cut a corner somewhere to maintain his "budget" status.  "BUUUUURP".....
 
Seriously, I only ever had to replace one door handle on a C.  I bought it from the Chrysler dealer as my used ones were just as sloppy and I didn't trust them.  I floored the partz guy when I simply gave him the OE part number to order the handle.  $15 and 24-hours later the LF door of my Polara was as good as new!  (aaand I didn't have to enter the car through the passenger door)  The same door handle fit a '92 Dodge truck!
 
As far as rear doors...  maybe the hard-top has something to do with the rod length.  Perhaps the shape of the window glass?  I'm curious now...
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