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Stan Paralikis

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« on: May 15, 2008, 09:13:24 AM »

I just read this elsewhere:
 
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...Four speeds were available in C-bodies from 1965 to 1969 (possibly 1964, though not confirmed)...
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Ummmm.....1969????
 
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 10:33:30 AM »

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I just read this elsewhere:
 
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...Four speeds were available in C-bodies from 1965 to 1969 (possibly 1964, though not confirmed)...
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Ummmm.....1969????
 
 
   I'd say the 69 falls in the same category as the 64 "C" body. Doesnt sound like a credible source or the guy would know there are no 64 C bodies. 65-68 are all I ever heard of with 4-speeds, though it's been kicked around a bit in the past.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 10:37:30 AM »

I thought they stopped in 68.  I have to read the Bible and see what it says
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 05:23:14 PM »

OK  I looked it up
 
The 4 Speed was, in fact, available in the Fury's, Polara's and Monacos in 1969.
 
I don't see any more mention of a 4 Speed in a C after 69. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 05:47:05 PM »

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OK  I looked it up  
The 4 Speed was, in fact, available in the Fury's, Polara's and Monacos in 1969. 
 
OK.  This is where we're going to start having fun.
 
I respectfully disagree.
 
This is an actual cut & paste from the 1969 Dodge Polara/Monaco factory literature:
 

 

 
And this is an actual cut & paste from the 1969 Plymouth Fury factory literature:
 

 
So, what I am saying is, that the 3 speed manual tranny (on the column) was available for the /6, 318, and 383 2bbl. The 4bbl big blocks were auto only and there were no 4 speeds of any kind in '69.
 
I know sometimes most of you guys have forgotten more than I ever knew so I'm not trying to be a know-it-all.
 
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 06:10:55 PM »

I used the "Standard Catalog of Chrysler"
 
Under Polara/Monaco it says
"Three speed manual transmission was standard on all models unless noted, with the three speed torqueflite and 4 speed manual optional"  Page 244
 
It says it again under convienence options it repeats the 4 speed, but they lump that into the Coronets, Chargers and R/T's also.  They also said Torqueflite was optional.  The 4 Speed was a $197.00 option.
 
This book has been known to be wrong.
 
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 06:16:26 PM »

I had seen more three-on-the tree '69's than 4 speed 68's.
Chrysler did not advertise it,but if you wanted it,order it up and pay up the money.
Sooo many C bodies were ordered cars with such interesting options this way.Customers got what they wanted--and paid dearly for it.Chrysler also made money doing so.
A win win situation.
Back then it was much simpler to get what you wanted in a car.
Today,for example if you want the $200.00 reverse warning system,you must have the $3,000.00 navigation system since they are a "package deal". That's 2,800.00 you dont want to spend.
Not to mention you can have any transmission in your 300,Charger or Magnum--as long as it is an automatic..AND they charge you for that as well.
"You can have any color of car..as long as it is black..." Henry Ford speaking about the Model T
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 06:20:07 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
I used the "Standard Catalog of Chrysler"
 
This book has been known to be wrong.
 
Did you know the base Monaco in 69 was a /6 and a 3 speed column? 
 
Nope.
 

 
So, a '69 Monaco /6 w/a 4 speed has got to be worth, what....$10 million dollars ( 12
  if it's a 4 door )
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 06:28:47 PM »

yeah  I agree.  It didn't define it that way.  The Plymouth section was worded similar.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 07:22:20 PM »

Add to the mix that Canadian Dodges were built differently than their Yankee cousins.As mentioned in my Monaco,eh? thread.
Sorta flipped flopped. Monaco was the base model and the Polara was top line.Totally opposite to the ads shown on the Fuselage website.
 
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 09:03:14 PM »

I'll chuck this in the pot, in 68 Fury you could get a 4 spd in both 383 and 440, I saw one of each in Kingston. I can't remember seeing a 69 Fury with a 4 spd, but I'm pretty sure it was an available option. The 70 Fury base was a 3 spd on the tree or an optional auto.  Not sure about 383, but 440 came auto only.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 03:33:56 AM »

I was just a kid but I swear my Grandfather had a 69-70 Fury with a 3 speed on the floor, I could be wrong but I know it was a big white car with a blue interior and Gramp was not big on ordering a car he'd buy em off the lot.
This sticks out in my head because Ol' Gramp NEVER used 2nd gear,he'd go from 1st to 3rd. And it made for a fun ride without seatbelts!
My uncle always said "Who ever gets Dad's car gets a brand new 2nd gear because he never used it!!"
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 08:15:57 AM »

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I was just a kid but I swear my Grandfather had a 69-70 Fury with a 3 speed on the floor...
 
The 69-70 Belvederes came with a 3 speed on the floor.... 

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 08:18:00 AM »

Darts and valiants had 3 speeds on the floor all the way up to 74.  6 or 8 Cyl.  I had a 318 3 speed on the floor.  Great car
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